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Apologies for lack of updates for the past few weeks – this one has not been easy to write, but we have, quite rightly, had complaints from parents over lack of news. It is a sad state of affairs that the parents have, as yet, had no communication from the Education Department.

Those of you who were at the last meeting will have heard that we have exhausted all the currently available legal avenues open in fighting the closure of Robslee. The Scottish Government do not approve of the closure of Robslee, or wish it to happen, but are powerless under the current flawed legislation to halt it.

The legal advice was that although ERC has a case to answer on several points, they could probably get around them. As the law is relatively new, ours would be a test case. Most worryingly, even if a judicial review overturned the council’s decision, the council would likely appeal, leading to more legal costs. The council have practically unlimited funds to use on legal costs (eg our council tax); we don’t. We could have been looking at costs well in excess of ♀40,000.

It was decided by all those present at that meeting that, for the sake of the future of all our children, we should now focus on making the best out of the situation that our elected Labour councillors have forced upon our children.

A steering committee has been formed, made up of representatives from both parent councils, teachers and management from both schools, and the education department.

Parents on the steering group have requested that the education department and head teachers hold meetings with parents of children in each stage at Robslee to explain what the phased closure means for them and their children; to explain the choices we have to make and to give parents a chance to discuss their thoughts amongst themselves and to directly ask any questions they have.

We hope to have more news on that soon, as well as news on the chance to visit Giffnock Primary. Hopefully after visits to Giffnock we will feel more positive about the future and have clearer ideas about what concerns we would like to see addressed. Expect a survey too, a chance to voice your concerns directly with the education department and the two schools.

A new Robslee parent council website should be ready soon – Robslee Parent Council Website. It’s a bit empty at the moment, but all merger news and information will be on there. We’ll get a Facebook page up for it too. As we have failed to Save Robslee, this website is now a bit defunct….but it won’t be going anywhere just yet.

The only slim hope remaining for Robslee now is a change of guard at the Council Elections next year. We know that the Conservative Group (including our own Ward councillor Gordon Wallace) and the Liberal Democrat representative, Provost Alex Mackie, strongly opposed the Robslee closure.

It is likely that the result at the election will be very close. We do not know if a different coloured Administration would proceed with the Labour and SNP plans to close Robslee, as their election policies have not been revealed. But when they do, we’ll let you know.

Please direct all comments/queries/worries about the merger to info@robsleepc.co.uk

If you have anything you want to say, email us – info@saverobsleeprimary.co.uk if you have any news, ideas, questions.

28 Responses to Home

  1. Gordon Woolford says:

    EastRenfrewshire selling their soul for money again surprise surprise. John Wilson is a disgrace of a man. He says he care about the young people in East Ren schools nothing could be further from the truth.

  2. Gillian Bell says:

    Save our schools!

  3. Caroline Hurst says:

    I object to the closure of Robslee School. Such action would be detrimental to the children’s education.

  4. Gail McGregor says:

    This council are not fit to serve the residents who elected them , when they are so clearly out of touch with the needs of their constituents.
    The children at Robslee are all happy , well educated , well mannered and well adjusted Children. They are a perfect example of the educational excellence that ERC like to portray. Our councillors are selling these children down the river – shame on them !

    • Laura Barry says:

      You’ve said it in a oner there Gail!!

      I’ve decided to come to this meeting tomorrow and I’m going to talk to people and see what there thinking.

      Hopefully we will be able to say what is needed and attempt to make the council here what everyone around here is thinking!!!

      • Ali C says:

        The trouble is that manners, happiness and degrees of adjustment are not measurable, therefore are not considered important by the Education Department. I know from experience that the pressure is on head teachers to meet targets for children getting through levels in language and maths. that is what is deemed as important.

        • Taylor says:

          I understand what your saying, but Robslees’ Standardised Test scores are better than Giffnocks’ are, can’t the council see this?

    • kirsty says:

      good on you mum.The council should take a page out of your book !!!!!!!!!!

  5. Zoe McKenna says:

    ERC are clearly only interested in schools that will boost their profile and John Wilson’s ego. Robslee is suffering so the council can solve the overcrowding at OLM and maintain its ‘excellent’ HMIe reports. The council are more interested in being top of the exam league tables than the pupils.

  6. Archie Dickson says:

    Another closure, another group of children suffering and anxious parents wondering where their children are going to go. Is this cut necessary to satisfy stats rather providing a service to hard working tax payers, I disagree with this closure and the knock on effects to others and the greater community.

  7. Neil Cameron says:

    Keep the school open and preserve local communities.

  8. Frances Curran says:

    The government gave the bankers ♀870,000,000,000, and we pay by de-investing in our children! Save our Schools

  9. Tricia Conlon says:

    Robslee primary is an integral part of the local community and to close it would be detrimental to that community. To uproot the children would have an adverse effect on the children and their education.

  10. Ali Campbell says:

    It is an absolute disgrace to consider this closure on the basis of an improvement of the educational experience for the children. This is an example of horse-trading at its lowest.
    A good education is about much more than league tables can ever illustrate. The trouble of relying on data is that the human aspect becomes lost.
    East Renfrewshire Council does not appear to care about the welfare of individual communities within its boundaries, only that of the region.

  11. Karen says:

    The children at Robslee are happy, confident and successful learners. The loss of Robslee would not only be detrimental to our children’s education, health and well-being, it’s like taking the heart out of the community. An absolute disgrace. SAVE OUR SCHOOL !

  12. J Kennedy says:

    Apologies for not supporting the “traffic jam” . It seems
    pretty much non sensical to me. I will walk tomorrow. Not my
    preference but it could be a nightmare given that I have heard that
    both mums and dads from the same families are taking separate cars
    to demonstrate the congestion. And so on that basis the “Cattle
    Drive Project” will not portray a true picture of what it could be
    like. ERC will sort all by making some changes to the traffic
    around Giffnock. Safety around Giffnock Primary has been a concern
    for some time and I think that the council will just simply change
    the entry to the school to avoid traffic in Academy Street
    altogether by perhaps closing off the end of the road so as to
    allow for only teachers and local residents and of course emergency
    vehicles. So at the end of the day all could be worse off. I do not
    support the closure of Robslee Primary, if it is the case, and I
    have not as yet heard to the contrary, that it is closing to make
    way for the excess intake of it’s neighbouring school. Given the
    figures presented in recent papers both Robslee and Giffnock as an
    amalgamation will still be undersubscribed in several years if
    based on “catchment”. As we all know government decisions are
    settled first and then along comes the “proposal” . I am afraid it
    will probably happen and the parents I feel for are those with
    older children attending either school who are outwith the
    catchment and now face either moving the older child/children or
    running to two schools every day . Let’s not mention the closure of
    nursery. On a related matter I live 5 minutes walk across the road
    from St. Ninians and would like my children to continue their
    eductation there. As it stands, under the current ERC guidelines,
    there is not a chance of that happening as my children do not
    attend a feeder school for St Ninians. Very annoying given that the
    feeder schools consist of several schools outiwth ERC. I think ERC
    need to be consistent in their “catchment/placement”
    structure.

  13. Mark says:

    On the subject of placement requests and catchment and
    delineated areas: ERC want to close Robslee as it has placing
    requests and is an inefficient use of their funding – in their
    opinion. But what about Calderwood lodge? I’m sure it is a very
    good school and have no complaint against the teachers, pupils or
    parents but as a costing exercise, lets look at the data: Link
    Calderwood lodge is an ERC school Its premises are entirely in the
    Glasgow City Council Area It has no catchment area at all – I think
    this is incredible! 100% of the pupils are there because of placing
    requests As you know, these may be ERC and non ERC placing requests
    The school does not serve its local community – All of the pupils
    are there on request The school is a denominational (single faith)
    school The school feeds to a non denominational High school –
    Mearns Castle My understanding is that the school is run by ERC for
    historic reasons. However, in the light of ERC financial crisis,
    wouldn¨t it be better if they stopped running a school which is not
    in their boundary and doesn¨t serve the children or the local
    community and then feeds to a cross sector High school which is in
    the ERC area.

    • admin says:

      I think Calderlodge is large funded by the Jewish community. ERC did give a large gift to it recently – at least ♀100k. Maybe Rev McDonald can bung us something from the collection :)

  14. Mark says:

    On the subject of placement requests and catchment and delineated areas:

    ERC want to close Robslee as it has placing requests and is an inefficient use of their funding – in their opinion.

    But what about Calderwood lodge?

    I’m sure it is a very good school and have no complaint against the teachers, pupils or parents but as a costing exercise, lets look at the data:

    http://www.findajewishschool.co.uk/jewish-primary-schools/calderwood-lodge-primary-school.php

    Calderwood lodge is an ERC school
    Its premises are entirely in the Glasgow City Council Area
    It has no catchment area at all – I think this is incredible!
    100% of the pupils are there because of placing requests
    As you know, these may be ERC and non ERC placing requests
    The school does not serve its local community – All of the pupils are there on request
    The school is a denominational (single faith) school
    The school feeds to a non denominational High school – Mearns Castle

    My understanding is that the school is run by ERC for historic reasons. However, in the light of ERC financial crisis, wouldn¨t it be better if they stopped running a school which is not in their boundary and doesn¨t serve the children or the local community and then feeds to a cross sector High school which is in the ERC area.

    • Mark, When the council’s were reorganised Calderwood Lodge was run by Glasgow city council. It was a school set up to serve the needs of the jewish community who, at that time, lived in the local area in Glasgow.

      Since then the population has largely moved to the East Renfrewshire area and it was agreed by both councils that it made more sense for the school to transfer to East Renfrewshire Council.

      You are right to say that it doesn’t have a catchment area and that all pupils apply by placing request but that reflects the position of the school and the population I’ve mentioned above.

      • Thommo says:

        So Calderwood Lodge is allowed to accept parental choice and only parental choice from all over Scotland?

        Yet Robslee Primary cannot?

        East Renfrewshire parents choose to send their kids to Robslee – most of the responses to the consultation came from East Renfrewhsire parents and East Renfrewshire pupils – they overwhelmingly rejected the closure of Robslee.

        East Renfrewshire people don’t want Robslee to close.

        Please understand that.

        and stop blaming Strathclyde Regional Council !

      • JB says:

        That seems very generous to accept a new school. Are you sure it wasn’t because they changed the law so that you got money for doing that?

        http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/1783/regulation/3/made

        That school is a non denominational school which is paid for by ER and runs solely on placement requests.

  15. iona gery says:

    SAVE ROBSLEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. S.K says:

    I am a child from robslee and I really would wish it to stay open because everyone there seems like family and there has been alot of good memories there !!!

  17. Anonymous says:

    SAVE ROBSLEE!

  18. Waheeda Shahid says:

    SAVE ROBSLEE PRIMARY!!!

  19. Trotter family says:

    Again we would like to inform you of our thoughts on the closure of Robslee Primary School. It has come to our attention that Braidbar Primary School has accepted placing requests from as far out as Steps Glasgow (with no siblings in the school) also Giffnock Primary have accepted placing requests for as far out as Paisley (again no siblings in the school….for this coming year 2011-2012) . Is this again a slap in the face from ERC.
    We would also like to understand way ERC are throwing Glasgow and Eastren children out of private and partnership nursery’s (within the ERC area) in their pre school year and anti pre school years (due to their capping of numbers)but will then accept them(Glasgow and ERC children) back into Eastren Schools in primary one .(wither or not they have siblings in the school).
    Keep fighting to keep Robslee open !All four of our children have had a great education and experience at Robslee over the past 10 years and continue to do so ,with lots of varied cross curriculum learning experiences, good class sizes,experienced staff and support staff, a parents committee that is prepared to go that extra mile and not forgetting the pupils ,parents and local community that wish for this SUCCESSFUL School to stay OPEN !
    Why would ERC education department and others wish to vote on the closure of Robslee? it seems it is purely for cost cuts (which also dont add up) Have they forgotten about the childens education and their duty to the children to provide the best education for them, at all ages!

  20. Local resident says:

    I am very grateful as a local resident that you continue to fight to keep the local school Robslee open. It is so disappointing that ERC are closing this school just because of its location. I am hopeful that if we all keep fighting eventually someone somewhere will listen and act. It is worth it for the future of all children in the community.

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